Men in Merseyside and Cheshire have been told to stop smoking or miss out on IVF. Obviously, they shouldn’t be smoking – but people who conceive naturally aren’t policed like this.
My biggest bugbear is that those conceiving naturally with no worries also don’t have to fund the creation of their family. If we ever manage to have kids we’ll be so far in debt it’s actually terrifying to think about it (so I don’t, off you go in a little mental box I can ignore). I had a fertile friend once try and compare it to the cost of actually having kids too. Like yes, kids are expensing but trying spending £20k before you’ve even given birth 🙃. It’s not a competition I just find it très frustrating.
Thanks for the article! While smoking has never been an issue for my Jouuurrrney I have often thought about the crazy levels of policing and been frustrated that no person who conceives naturally will need to think about - when we went through the paperwork in our most recent clinic the consultant asked us 'how long did you live together before getting married?' the answer was years but 'what the fuck?!' what does that have to do with our fertility?! Totally joining you in the whiny 'it's not fair!'
In New Zealand you can't be a smoker of any kind in the last 3 months to go through govt funded infertility treatment, both partners. I kinda get it? There's a few other checks you go through to get on the year (or 18 months) waitlist for ivf
Yeah I mean it's not my strongest argument! My point was more that we are policed in ways that other people aren't. But yes, everyone should give up smoking.
Yeah I get where you're coming through. It's kinda bullshit the extra hoops you have to jump through. The bmi regulations is probably the hardest, I understand it's because it's unsafe to go under sedation for egg collection at higher bmi but it feels soooo unfair for women have to crash diet, stress their bodies, etc. I digress. Infertility is so unfair
My biggest bugbear is that those conceiving naturally with no worries also don’t have to fund the creation of their family. If we ever manage to have kids we’ll be so far in debt it’s actually terrifying to think about it (so I don’t, off you go in a little mental box I can ignore). I had a fertile friend once try and compare it to the cost of actually having kids too. Like yes, kids are expensing but trying spending £20k before you’ve even given birth 🙃. It’s not a competition I just find it très frustrating.
The mental box! It's the only way. Très frustrating is the word.
Thanks for the article! While smoking has never been an issue for my Jouuurrrney I have often thought about the crazy levels of policing and been frustrated that no person who conceives naturally will need to think about - when we went through the paperwork in our most recent clinic the consultant asked us 'how long did you live together before getting married?' the answer was years but 'what the fuck?!' what does that have to do with our fertility?! Totally joining you in the whiny 'it's not fair!'
This is unhinged!
Agree!
In New Zealand you can't be a smoker of any kind in the last 3 months to go through govt funded infertility treatment, both partners. I kinda get it? There's a few other checks you go through to get on the year (or 18 months) waitlist for ivf
Yeah I mean it's not my strongest argument! My point was more that we are policed in ways that other people aren't. But yes, everyone should give up smoking.
Yeah I get where you're coming through. It's kinda bullshit the extra hoops you have to jump through. The bmi regulations is probably the hardest, I understand it's because it's unsafe to go under sedation for egg collection at higher bmi but it feels soooo unfair for women have to crash diet, stress their bodies, etc. I digress. Infertility is so unfair